Monday, May 20, 2013

Victoria Day 2013

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"Victoria and Family", © 1978 Norval Morrisseau


In Canada, the celebration of Victoria Day occurs every year on Monday, prior to May 25th. It is the official celebration in Canada of the birthdays of Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth II. Victoria Day was established as a holiday in Canada West (Now Ontario) in 1845, and became a national holiday in 1901. Before Victoria Day became a national Holiday, people had celebrated Empire Day , beginning in the 1890s as Victoria approached her Diamond jubilee in 1897. Victoria, queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and empress of India was born on 24 May 1819. She ascended the throne after the death of her uncle George IV in 1837 when she was only 18. She ruled until her death in 1901 when her son Edward the VII became king of England.





BLOG MASTER'S NOTE: The above painting titled "Victoria and Family, 1978" shows a celebration of Norval Morrisseau's first grandchild (Andy, born in 1977) from his daughter Victoria (born in 1960) and her husband Walter Henry Kakekagumick (born in 1959; died on April 6th, 2013).
~ They have three children and nine grandchildren.

*The acrylic painting on canvas in this post: "Victoria and Family", 59"x39", © 1978 Norval Morrisseau. Image of this painting can be found on page 153 in "The Art of Norval Morrisseau" /Sinclair, Lister, Jack Pollock, and Norval Morrisseau/ -Toronto, Ontario: Methuen, 1979; ISBN: 0-458-93820-3/

Sunday, May 19, 2013

>>> The NORVAL MORRISSEAU BLOG endorses the NORVAL MORRISSEAU UNLIMITED


-Catalogue Raisonné For The Limited Editions
/The Scientific Blog Project/

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By MorrisseauUnlimited

/Backgroung music: Neil Young's "Heart of Gold" - 
                                       Norval Morrisseau's favourite song/
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About the project & Mission

Background

For all the original paintings and drawings, the Norval Morrisseau Heritage Society (NMHS) has accepted the task (in 2005) to work on a catalogue raisonné, documenting every known work created by the artist. The large amount of - unrecorded - Norval Morrisseau’s originals will understandably lead to years of research and investigation by the NMHS.

Documenting the original signed limited edition silkscreens/serigraphs and lithographs are not part of their mission. Therefore this project will deal with all original signed limited editions, with the mission statement as written below.

If you own a Norval Morrisseau painting and would like to document it, contact the NMHS, contact the Norval Morrisseau Heritage Society at norvalmorrisseauheritage@gmail.com.

If you own a piece of a Norval Morrisseau limited edition, you can contribute in this blog research project.

Mission Statement

This project has the mission to document all original signed limited editions of Norval Morrisseau. Norval Morrisseau Unlimited uses an on-line blog for the following reasons:

- to stimulate owners of a piece, to contribute with factual information;

- to support the art market as soon as possible, not out waiting the finalization of the project.

Contribute to the research!

If you have a limited edition of Norval Morrisseau, you can help to add factual information, which are still missing in the on-line Catalogue Raisonné. Search for the edition, in which you own a piece, in the “list (so far)”, look at the information and:

- confirm (or unconfirm) the written information (the more confirmations, the more reliable the information);

- send the unknown information.

Contribute by sending your information to morrisseau.unlimited@gmail.com or by adding a comment (with the information) to a posting, by clicking on the posting title of your edition. It does not matter if a posting is old, you can always respond. See the on-line blog as a database, in which information will continuous be added.

Content

All information mentioned are factual registered by one ore more sources. For the codification of the sources and the reliability, see ‘codification’.

The limited editions will be numbered. For the codification of the numbering, see ‘codification‘.

For the first year, after the launch of this project, regular there will be new posting of a known limited edition.

-Blog master’s personal note

I am really fond of limited editions and I love the art of Norval Morrisseau. The combination is magical, to me. I discovered his art in the beginning of 2000 and it was the start of a special journey.

During these last 9 years I followed his art and collected almost scientifically al kind of information. This was not as easy as I expected for a well known and respected Canadian artist. However all my collected information of limited editions is the basis of this project “Catalogue Raisonné for the Limited Editions’.

I hope all owners will contribute to finalise this non-commercial project and that everyone will enjoy this site during the project.

Warm regards,

Frank Kortstee, 05/24/2009

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* Blog Master's comment: I would like to invite and encourage all of the readers of THE NORVAL MORRISSEAU BLOG to assist Mr. Frank Kortstee in this important and honourable project! Miigwech, Spirit Walker.

Mr. Randy Potter's genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings available on eBay (Part IV)


~ Reference for Norval Morrisseau's admirers, & art collectors

 "SPIRITS SPEAK WITH ANIMAL SPIRITS", 33"x26", 
© 1975 Norval Morrisseau /click on image to Enlarge and/or click HERE to view canvas VERSO signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/ ~ from Mr. Randy Potter's collection 
 
 
"I AM LISTING THIS PAINTING TO POSSIBLY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT MORRISSEAU PAINTINGS. MY NAME IS RANDY POTTER AND I AM A RETIRED AUCTIONEER. I HAVE SOLD PROBABLY AROUND 1500 OF NORVALS PAINTINGS AND HAVE NEVER HAD EVEN ONE RETURNED TO ME FOR A REFUND. 100% HAPPY CUSTOMERS." 

Randy Potter
Port Hope, Ontario





Source: 'eBay' Item number: 161023177035


BLOG MASTER'S NOTES:

All of Norval Morrisseau paintings acquired from Mr. Potter's auction (Randy Potter Estate Auctions) that were analyzed for artist's signatures were forensically authenticated by three top internationally recognized Forensic Document Examiners and Handwriting Experts from Ottawa, Toronto and Calgary (click HERE).

Also, every single painting purchased from Mr. Potter's auction which had been brought for appraisal to Mr. Joseph McLeod (Maslak McLeod Gallery) was positively authenticated as well.  


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>>> In a court judgement Hatfield vs. Artworld of Sherway /Court File No. SC-09-087264-0000/ Judge Paul J. Martial stated the following:

"The Court finds that there is overwhelming evidence that Norval Morrisseau signed paintings in black brush paint.” (Judgment by Judge Paul J Martial: March 25th, 2013 - Page 34)


NOTE: Genuine Norval Morrisseau painting involved in this court case was also acquired from Randy Potter Estate Auctions and appraised by Mr. Joseph McLeod.

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>>> Pivotal Court Case Relevant to Authenticity of Norval Morrisseau Artworks - Revisited

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Hatfield vs. Artworld of Sherway
/Court File No. SC-09-087264-0000/


























 
"Wheel of Life", © 1979 Norval Morrisseau
 /Canvas front & VERSO/


A landmark court decision confirms the authenticity of thousands of Norval  Morrisseau paintings! 

~ The following is the analysis and decision of Deputy Judge Paul J. Martial's judgement dated March 25th, 2013 and officially issued by the Ontario Superior Court of Justice on April 2nd, 2013 (Pages 35 - 39)

ANALYSIS

The Court has considered in excess of some 750 pages of testimony over five days of hearing and reviewed the exhibits and considered the detailed written submissions of counsel.

The Court finds that there is overwhelming evidence that Norval Morrisseau signed paintings in black brush paint.


The eye witness testimony of his brother Wilfred Morrisseau who lived with him for substantial periods of time in the North and elsewhere and who saw him sign in black brush paint is convincing and credible.

The testimony of Marlow Goring supports his testimony in regards to the practise of the artist signing paintings in black brush.

Wilfred Morrisseau's testimony that his brother painted while in jail and his explanation of his brother's decadent lifestyle and his carefree attitude to life provides a cogent explanation for the lack of receipts to document the provenance.

The Court adopts Wilfred Morrisseau's testimony that his brother painted a significant number of paintings en masse and it is therefore reasonable to conclude that his production was in the thousands.

The testimony of Mr. Joseph McLeod is indicative of his care and the detailed efforts to confirm provenance, including the hiring of a forensic expert to examine the signature on the back of the painting indicate that he took his role to provide appraisals seriously.

His testimony of the origin of the Cree syllabic signature, the name Copper Thunderbird and his interpretation of the painting "Wheel of Life" demonstrates his depth of knowledge of the painter due to his lengthy association with the artist.

His explanation of the brown more muted colour of the painting compared to the brighter later paintings is credible when considered in the context of pictographs near Lac Seul and in Nipigon where Morrisseau lived and likely the inspiration of the earlier paintings. Such pictographs were also known to exist in the Petroglyphs near Peterborough where Morrisseau formerly resided.

The Defendants acted reasonably in obtaining one of two appraisals from Mr. Joseph McLeod to authenticate the painting due to his knowledge of and prior dealings with the artist due to the controversy about provenance.

The Court received the statutory declarations of Norval Morrisseau and letters filed by the Plaintiff in support of the allegation of forgery. This evidence was relevant and although hearsay was admitted since it was relevant to the central issue - Was the painting a forgery?


In assessing the reliability of that evidence however, the Court notes that since this evidence was not subject to cross-examination it had to be carefully weighed in light of the testimony of all of the witnesses.

The Plaintiff's own witness Donald Robinson provided viva voce testimony of Norval Morrisseau's inconsistency and difficulty in identifying his own work, and of his unpredictability.


He agreed that Morrisseau could have memory problems from 2003 to 2006, and of his decline in health due to his illness.

Robinson's admission that he was not surprised that Morrisseau would sign a certificate of authenticity to please also cast doubt on the reliability of the statutory declarations signed by Morrisseau.

His testimony coupled with the testimony of other witnesses of Morrisseau's Parkinson's disease raises a significant doubt of the reliability of the statutory declarations.


Although a letter from a lawyer who was present at the signing of the statutory declaration and a doctor's letter were filed at trial, no expert testimony of capacity was proffered by the Plaintiff on such a key issue.

Mr. Robinson was qualified as an expert in the area of valuation and appraisal.
His testimony however overlapped into the area of handwriting and included an analysis of syllabic and English handwriting, areas for which he was not qualified.

He has no formal training as an expert witness in handwriting analysis and his evidence is rejected.

Dr. Singla's forensic evidence is preferred in this regard and his finding that it is highly probable that the painting "Wheel of Life" was painted by Norval Morrisseau was supported by his detailed technical analysis of known signatures of' Norval Morrisseau.

Mr. Robinson also testified as to his personal dealings with Morrisseau paintings. It was his view that there were a large number of forgeries.


It was also clear that his personal views and business interests conflicted with his professional opinion since it was in his interest along with Mr. Vadas to maintain the price of Morrisseau paintings which would not otherwise be the case if the market was flooded with paintings sourced from Potter auctions.

The Court rejects his expert report and his conclusion that the Morellian analysis, style, colour, and provenance all pointed to forgery.

Mr. Joseph McLeod's testimony is preferred to that of Mr. Ritchie Sinclair. Mr. Sinclair's testimony of numerous forgers paid for with drugs although dramatic was not supported by the evidence.

DECISION


After a careful consideration of all of the evidence, the Court finds that on the balance of probabilities that the painting "Wheel of Life" dated February 1979 is an original Norval Morrisseau and undoubtedly one of his most notorious paintings.

The painting “Wheel of Life" is not a forgery. The Defendants did not misrepresent the authenticity of the painting.


The Plaintiff's claim is dismissed with costs fixed at $1,500.00 dollars pursuant to the written submissions of counsel.


Dated at Toronto this 25th day of March 2013.

Signed
/Paul J. Martial/


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~ This document, issued by the Ontario Superior Court of Justice, also includes the introduction, plaintiff's and defence evidence as well as summary of testimonies by Ms. Margaret Hatfield, Mr. Donald Robinson, Mr. Ritchie Sinclair, Ms. Donna Child, Mr. Wilfred Morrisseau, Mr. Kevin Cott, Mr. Joseph McLeod, Mr. Marlow Goring, Dr. Atul K. Singla and Mr. James White.

Source: Deputy Judge Paul J. Martial's judgement
                  /Complete Original Downloadable Document/

             


MEDIA COVERAGE:
~ "The Ottawa Citizen"

 
>>> Reference posts:
- Experts in Norval Morrisseau's Art (Part I) /Ref.: Mr. Joseph McLeod/,
- Signatures on Norval Morrisseau artworks certified by Forensic Science,
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part I),
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part II),
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part III),
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part IV),
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part V),
- Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part VI),
- Morrisseau's artwork in Auction Houses, Commercial Art Galleries & Museums Around the World, - Genuine Morrisseau paintings: Appraised, Authenticated and Forensically Analyzed... /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/ - Norval Morrisseau authenticating his artworks /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/, - Endorsement by Thunder Bay Art Gallery of genuine Morrisseau paintings from 1970's /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/, - Authenticity Statement by Mr. Goyce Kakegamic /'In regards to Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings acquired from Collections of Mr. Rolf Schneiders and Mr. Gary Lamont/, - Statutory Declaration by Mr. Robert Scott, /' Witnessing Norval Morrisseau signing the paintings with a dry brush (DB) technique'/ - Statutory Declaration by Mr. Deiter John Voss, /' Witnessing Norval Morrisseau signing the paintings with a dry brush (DB) technique'

* The painting in this post: "Wheel of Life", 35"x35", © 1979 Norval Morrisseau;
CURRENT OWNERSHIP: Private Collection of Ms. Margaret L. Hatfield;
SOURCE: Randy Potter Estate Auction, Pickering, Ontario.

Mr. Randy Potter's genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings available on eBay (Part III)


~ Reference for Norval Morrisseau's admirers, & art collectors


"BEAVER", 20"x20", © 1972 Norval Morrisseau
/click on image to Enlarge and/or click HERE to view canvas VERSO signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/
~ from Mr. Randy Potter's collection 
 
 
"I AM LISTING THIS PAINTING TO POSSIBLY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT MORRISSEAU PAINTINGS. MY NAME IS RANDY POTTER AND I AM A RETIRED AUCTIONEER. I HAVE SOLD PROBABLY AROUND 1500 OF NORVALS PAINTINGS AND HAVE NEVER HAD EVEN ONE RETURNED TO ME FOR A REFUND. 100% HAPPY CUSTOMERS." 

Randy Potter
Port Hope, Ontario





Source: 'eBay' Item number: 161023175169


BLOG MASTER'S NOTES:

All of Norval Morrisseau paintings acquired from Mr. Potter's auction (Randy Potter Estate Auctions) that were analyzed for artist's signatures were forensically authenticated by three top internationally recognized Forensic Document Examiners and Handwriting Experts from Ottawa, Toronto and Calgary (click HERE).

Also, every single painting purchased from Mr. Potter's auction which had been brought for appraisal to Mr. Joseph McLeod (Maslak McLeod Gallery) was positively authenticated as well.  


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>>> In a court judgement Hatfield vs. Artworld of Sherway /Court File No. SC-09-087264-0000/ Judge Paul J. Martial stated the following:

"The Court finds that there is overwhelming evidence that Norval Morrisseau signed paintings in black brush paint.” (Judgment by Judge Paul J Martial: March 25th, 2013 - Page 34)


NOTE: Genuine Norval Morrisseau painting involved in this court case was also acquired from Randy Potter Estate Auctions and appraised by Mr. Joseph McLeod.

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“The Court finds that there is overwhelming evidence that Norval Morrisseau signed paintings in black brush paint.” - Judge Paul J. Martial*


Hatfield vs. Artworld of Sherway
/Court File No. SC-09-087264-0000/

~ Reference information for Norval Morrisseau's admirers, researchers, investigators, news reporters & art collectors


"Untitled", 58"x138", acrylic on canvas, © 1979 Norval Morrisseau
~ Forensically certified as an authentic Morrisseau artwork by Mr. Kenneth J. Davies, Questioned Document Examiner in his 3rd Summary Report dated December 19, 2011.


Below, listed in chronological order, are the Forensic Reports available for FREE DOWNLOAD (2002 to 2013). These reports feature the conclusive findings of three top internationally recognized Forensic Document Examiners and Handwriting Experts that questioned signatures on various artworks were authored by Norval Morrisseau:

~ Reports No. 4, 5 & 10 are directly related to  Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway court case

1. Forensic Report; File No. 1349/02; January 24th, 2002
Re: Handwriting Identification of Norval Morrisseau
Prepared for Maslak McLeod Gallery (Joseph McLeod), Toronto, ON
Prepared by Brian Lindblom, B.A., F.S.S. Dip. - Forensic Document Examiner (Document Examination Consultants Inc.)
              
2. Forensic Report; File No. 1834/07; March 13th, 2007
Re: Norval Morrisseau Signature Comparison
Prepared for Joseph Otavnik, Oshawa, ON
Prepared by Brian Lindblom, B.A., FSSocDip - Forensic Document Examiner
(Document Examination Consultants Inc.)

3. Forensic Report; File No. 1951/08; November 5th, 2008
Re: Norval Morrisseau Paintings

Prepared for Michael Moniz, Brampton, ON
Prepared by Brian Lindblom, B.A., FSSocDip, D-ABFDE - Forensic Document Examiner (Document Examination Consultants Inc.)


4. Forensic Report; WWFS File No. 2002; August 24th, 2010
Re: Signatures of Norval Morrisseau on Paintings

Prepared for James White, Toronto, ON
Prepared by Dr. Atul K. Singla, M.Sc., Pd. D. (Forensic Science) - Forensic Document Examiner (Worldwide Forensic Services Inc.)


5. Supplementary Forensic Report; WWFS File No. 2002A; May 27th, 2011; Re: Signatures of Norval Morrisseau on Paintings
Prepared for James White, Toronto, ON
Prepared by Dr. Atul K. Singla, M.Sc., Pd. D. (Forensic Science) - Forensic Document Examiner (Worldwide Forensic Services Inc.)

6. Summary Report; File No. 3442-1; July 29th, 2011
Re: Examination of Questioned Signatures Pertinent to the Authentication of Paintings of Norval Morrisseau

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Kenneth J. Davies, B.Sc. C.Ga CFC - Examiner, Questioned Documents (Grapho-Lab® Services - Hawkeye Studios)

7. 2nd Summary Report; File No. 3442-1; November 10th, 2011
Re: Examination of Questioned Signatures Pertinent to the Authentication of Paintings of Norval Morrisseau

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Kenneth J. Davies, B.Sc. C.Ga CFC - Examiner, Questioned Documents (Grapho-Lab® Services - Hawkeye Studios)

8. 3rd Summary Report; File No. 3442-1; December 19th, 2011
Re: Examination of Questioned Signatures Pertinent to the Authentication of Paintings of Norval Morrisseau

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Kenneth J. Davies, B.Sc. C.Ga CFC - Examiner, Questioned Documents (Grapho-Lab® Services - Hawkeye Studios)

9. Forensic Report; WWFS File No. 2099; December 21st, 2011
Re: Signatures of Norval Morrisseau on Paintings

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Dr. Atul K. Singla, M.Sc., Pd. D. (Forensic Science) - Forensic Document Examiner (Worldwide Forensic Services Inc.)


10. Second Supplementary Forensic Report; WWFS File No. 2002B; December 22nd, 2011; Re: Signatures of Norval Morrisseau on Paintings
Prepared for James White, Toronto, ON
Prepared by Dr. Atul K. Singla, M.Sc., Pd. D. (Forensic Science) - Forensic Document Examiner (Worldwide Forensic Services Inc.)

11. 4th Summary Report; File No. 3442-1; April 18th, 2012
Re: Examination of Questioned Signatures Pertinent to the Authentication of Paintings of Norval Morrisseau

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Kenneth J. Davies, B.Sc. C.Ga CFC - Examiner, Questioned Documents (Grapho-Lab® Services - Hawkeye Studios)

12. 5th Summary Report; File No. 3442-1; (PENDING; findings known)
Re: Examination of Questioned Signatures Pertinent to the Authentication of Paintings of Norval Morrisseau

Prepared for Ugo Matulic, Calgary, AB
Prepared by Kenneth J. Davies, B.Sc. C.Ga CFC - Examiner, Questioned Documents (Grapho-Lab® Services - Hawkeye Studios)

More Forensic Reports COMING SOON...





* -  Deputy Judge Paul J. Martial's judgement dated March 25th, 2013
/Original Downloadable Document/

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>>> Reference posts:
- Morrisseau's artwork in Auction Houses, Commercial Art Galleries & Museums Around the World, - Genuine Morrisseau paintings: Appraised, Authenticated and Forensically Analyzed... /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/ - Experts in Norval Morrisseau's Art (Part I) /Ref.: Mr. Joseph McLeod/ - Norval Morrisseau authenticating his artworks /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/, - Endorsement by Thunder Bay Art Gallery of genuine Morrisseau paintings from 1970's /In regards to the Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/, - Authenticity Statement by Mr. Goyce Kakegamic /'In regards to Genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings acquired from Collections of Mr. Rolf Schneiders and Mr. Gary Lamont/, - Statutory Declaration by Mr. Robert Scott, /' Witnessing Norval Morrisseau signing the paintings with a dry brush (DB) technique'/, - Statutory Declaration by Mr. Deiter John Voss, /' Witnessing Norval Morrisseau signing the paintings with a dry brush (DB) technique'/ - Hatfield, Margaret Lorraine vs. Child, Donna and Artworld of Sherway (Part IV) & - Pivotal Court Case Relevant to Authenticity of Norval Morrisseau Artworks.
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Saturday, May 18, 2013

Mr. Randy Potter's genuine Norval Morrisseau paintings available on eBay (Part II)


~ Reference for Norval Morrisseau's admirers, & art collectors


"GRAND SHAMAN WITH CLAN STAFF", 41"x31", 
© 1978 Norval Morrisseau /click on image to Enlarge and/or click HERE to view canvas VERSO signed by the artist with a dry brush (DB) technique/ ~ from Mr. Randy Potter's collection 
 
 
"I AM LISTING THIS PAINTING TO POSSIBLY EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT MORRISSEAU PAINTINGS. MY NAME IS RANDY POTTER AND I AM A RETIRED AUCTIONEER. I HAVE SOLD PROBABLY AROUND 1500 OF NORVALS PAINTINGS AND HAVE NEVER HAD EVEN ONE RETURNED TO ME FOR A REFUND. 100% HAPPY CUSTOMERS." 

Randy Potter
Port Hope, Ontario





Source: 'eBay' Item number: 161023164909


BLOG MASTER'S NOTES:

All of Norval Morrisseau paintings acquired from Mr. Potter's auction (Randy Potter Estate Auctions) that were analyzed for artist's signatures were forensically authenticated by three top internationally recognized Forensic Document Examiners and Handwriting Experts from Ottawa, Toronto and Calgary (click HERE).

Also, every single painting purchased from Mr. Potter's auction which had been brought for appraisal to Mr. Joseph McLeod (Maslak McLeod Gallery) was positively authenticated as well.  


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>>> In a court judgement Hatfield vs. Artworld of Sherway /Court File No. SC-09-087264-0000/ Judge Paul J. Martial stated the following:

"The Court finds that there is overwhelming evidence that Norval Morrisseau signed paintings in black brush paint.” (Judgment by Judge Paul J Martial: March 25th, 2013 - Page 34)


NOTE: Genuine Norval Morrisseau painting involved in this court case was also acquired from Randy Potter Estate Auctions and appraised by Mr. Joseph McLeod.

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