tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post4270387656100410266..comments2023-07-28T07:12:45.810-03:00Comments on NORVAL MORRISSEAU BLOG: Childlike Simplicity IIISpirit Walkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-80699672334786891632008-03-06T23:34:00.000-04:002008-03-06T23:34:00.000-04:002 posts abovewhy so hostile TB888?your contributio...2 posts above<BR/>why so hostile TB888?<BR/>your contribution would be.....?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-61664091084228707492008-03-06T20:07:00.000-04:002008-03-06T20:07:00.000-04:00Ink Guy wrote: "it took too long to compose and wr...Ink Guy wrote: "it took too long to compose and write.<BR/>sorry, I can't waste any more time here. good luck"<BR/><BR/>SW writes: "Consider that I am the only one who is working on a Blog and if you do not see your comments posted immediately wait until the following day before you start judging me. I just want you to know that I cannot be available 24/7 to accomodate everyone's request. <BR/><BR/>Haven't I showed enough proof that I have good intentions in mind?<BR/><BR/>Thanks."Spirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-68811111868097521362008-03-06T16:10:00.000-04:002008-03-06T16:10:00.000-04:00see how INKGUY writes he can't waste anymore time ...see how INKGUY writes he can't waste anymore time here?so what do you do enter a blog and desiminate your lies and opinions to confuse people and run away like a scared rat...you have provided zero in the way of any useful information...facts guy facts....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-79790111854065881982008-03-06T16:06:00.000-04:002008-03-06T16:06:00.000-04:00i have a great idea.How about posters who complete...i have a great idea.How about posters who completely identify themselves with their full names will not be subjected to Spiritwalker's deletions but those that come in anonymously will be scrutinized to the blog masters descretion if their comments are out of control and get deleted!<BR/>that would solve alot of sneak attacks by people with ulterior motives. <BR/>i guess guys like poor Ink Guy wouldn't like that one...eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-81794085021643944922008-03-06T09:46:00.000-04:002008-03-06T09:46:00.000-04:00You can find a lot of Morrisseau paintings on eBay...You can find a lot of Morrisseau paintings on eBay - no question about that! Whether it is a great place to buy a Morrisseau is really up the buyer to decide. Some will be happy to purchase a painting with no/little provenance, some will not know about the issues raised on this blog and buy in good faith and others will not touch them. It is up to the buyers to decide if it is a good place to buy or not and not up to the seller to tell us that is a good place to buy. The secondary market needs to be discussed and it needs to be defended.<BR/><BR/>Spirit Walker has done a great job a keeping this blog going. He has asked that individuals adding comments please use an identity to mark their comments. Out of respect for the time he is taking to keep this alive I would encourage everyone adding comments to adhere to this request.<BR/><BR/>APAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-15691918053196336162008-03-06T09:17:00.000-04:002008-03-06T09:17:00.000-04:00it took too long to compose and write.sorry, I can...it took too long to compose and write.<BR/>sorry, I can't waste any more time here.<BR/>good luckAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-84223517166727071252008-03-06T09:04:00.000-04:002008-03-06T09:04:00.000-04:00Ink Guy... you wrote: "ink guy wants to know why m...Ink Guy... you wrote: "ink guy wants to know why my post from last night did not go through?<BR/>is censorship back again? the post was not offensive at any, rather good for all sides????<BR/>whats UP"<BR/><BR/>Yes, censorship is back again but I pomised I would place everything with appropriate content. Can you please send comment again? I might have deleted it by mistake... SWSpirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-54202351110948679502008-03-05T23:50:00.000-04:002008-03-05T23:50:00.000-04:00ink guy said... I agree with the " a Morrisseau fo...ink guy said...<BR/> I agree with the <BR/>" a Morrisseau for all comment " <BR/>advanced collectors are unlikely to purchase from ebay or else where if there is no professional gallery link to the work, or if the provenance is not there, thats just how it is.<BR/><BR/>"eBay is a great place to buy a genuine Norval Morrisseau"<BR/><BR/>Stop dissing the secondary market...which is an economic threat to galleries for now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-61656789635728728212008-03-05T13:35:00.000-04:002008-03-05T13:35:00.000-04:00I think the value of art is very much controlled b...I think the value of art is very much controlled by the buyers because demand drives prices. The artist can try to limit supply to drive prices higher but ultimately, a piece of art is only worth what someone is willing to buy it for. It doesn't really serve any practical purpose whereby economic output can be measured. <BR/><BR/>Collectors and those who buy and sell art are more concerned with valus because they don't want to lose money. But art lovers, love the art they buy for reasons not relatd to economics. If you think about it - is a painting moves you and affects you positively - does it matter who painted it? I've seen some wonderful 'Morrisseaus" which cannot be autenticated by Provenance. However, they paintings are beautiful and I love them. Maybe someday I would find out Norval didn't paint them. So? I didn't pay full price but even better - I loved the painting and wanted it. <BR/><BR/>I think the best approach is to buy art that moves you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-2486942230769680082008-03-05T10:37:00.000-04:002008-03-05T10:37:00.000-04:00good post.I agree with the " a Morrisseau for all ...good post.<BR/>I agree with the <BR/>" a Morrisseau for all comment " <BR/>advanced collectors are unlikely to purchase from ebay or else where if there is no professional gallery link to the work, or if the provenance is not there, thats just how it is.<BR/>risk is always an issue in the purchase or investment in art, that's the way it is, and has always been.<BR/>it comes down to the buyer and seller.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-5407998224062971812008-03-05T10:08:00.000-04:002008-03-05T10:08:00.000-04:00Ink guy makes a very good comment...one that I bro...Ink guy makes a very good comment...one that I brought up before. There is a 'Morrisseau'for everyone. We all know what it would cost to purchase a well documented Morrisseau and we all know what it would cost to purchase a Morrisseau that is not documented. The lower the price the bigger the risk you may be taking. Does that create two types of Morrisseau paintings - YES - ones that are well documented and ones that are not and if Morrisseaus lifestyle there will always be these paintings that are not well documented.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-34357024993617675232008-03-05T09:18:00.000-04:002008-03-05T09:18:00.000-04:00to JZ I hope this Thursday is the day..I hope.I...to JZ I hope this Thursday is the day..I hope.<BR/><BR/>I just looked over some posts and want to state and agree with some of the posts.<BR/>these paintings in question will not go away, authenticity of most may never be confirmed. the question will come down to " how to put a value on them"<BR/>I think many of them are very well done, be it by Morrisseau in full, in part. or not at all. they are still worth something.<BR/>what is the price formula.<BR/>if you like it, want it. buy it but remember, it may or may not be by Morrisseau?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-27539230243978098722008-03-05T04:33:00.000-04:002008-03-05T04:33:00.000-04:00I remember you well Ink Guy. Thank you for the kin...I remember you well Ink Guy. Thank you for the kind comments.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your interest in this beautiful art. <BR/><BR/>I hope you received what was due to you and that all is well.<BR/><BR/>All my Relations,<BR/><BR/>JZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-71732465297607402162008-03-05T02:43:00.000-04:002008-03-05T02:43:00.000-04:00Thank you JZ...Thank you JZ...Spirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-34001560932113178182008-03-04T21:29:00.000-04:002008-03-04T21:29:00.000-04:00should have added this to my previous.Comments fro...should have added this to my previous.<BR/>Comments from JZ should be taken seriously, he is a decent guy with good connections and knowledge, I certainly have no reason to doubt and highly value his comments and professionalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-18087306137935755912008-03-04T21:21:00.000-04:002008-03-04T21:21:00.000-04:00the ink guy says. John is the real deal.and a nice...the ink guy says.<BR/> John is the real deal.<BR/>and a nice guy at that.<BR/>met him and Christian at his Toronto area Gallery opening last Sept.<BR/>many emails confirm this in my mind.<BR/>much respect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-37458369638160647012008-03-04T21:09:00.000-04:002008-03-04T21:09:00.000-04:00Anyone who wishes to contact me to verify that I a...Anyone who wishes to contact me to verify that I am a real person can do so by emailing me at:<BR/><BR/>info@christianmorrisseau.com<BR/><BR/>jzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-17274726717665070412008-03-04T18:53:00.000-04:002008-03-04T18:53:00.000-04:00I will disclose my identity to anyone who contacts...I will disclose my identity to anyone who contacts me at spiritwalker2008@gmail.com.<BR/><BR/>For the blog I would like to remain Spirit Walker and I would respect if others refer to me as such.<BR/><BR/>I can give you my honest opinion about your paintings if you are willing to share the images with me.<BR/><BR/>I would just like that more of those who can help the cause to assist me... I am presenting the platform and all of you are free to join.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Spirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-78628878114244560722008-03-04T18:30:00.000-04:002008-03-04T18:30:00.000-04:00Who is spirit walker? Why not start there before ...Who is spirit walker? Why not start there before you ask for others to identify themselves. <BR/><BR/>It would appear you can count the names of people that actually provide their full name to their comments on one hand (Karl, Michael, Bryant ... sorry could be more but can not be bothered having a deeper look).<BR/><BR/>Who am I...I am a collector that fell in love with Norval's work. I purchased a couple of pieces with my hard earned cash and bought them not realizing the state of the market. Now I am questioning the paintings I bought and I am looking for answers. I am sure I am not the only person with this same situation on this blog and that is why the same questions arise. There seems to be many of us.<BR/><BR/>I am not an expert in his painting styles and his life. I never meet him and know little about him and his association with various people and galleries. I have little to offer but to ask questions seeking the truth for myself and to gain knowledge.<BR/><BR/>I am willing to join this quest for truth but want answers not just big statements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-61488554758707921262008-03-04T18:09:00.000-04:002008-03-04T18:09:00.000-04:00Do you have any suggestions regarding question dir...Do you have any suggestions regarding question directed to me? Are you willing to disclose who you are that we can have open discussions?<BR/><BR/>I am welcoming anybody to join me on this spirit quest for truth.<BR/><BR/>Are you willing to join me?Spirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-70017210520472051862008-03-04T17:41:00.000-04:002008-03-04T17:41:00.000-04:00SW - with so many anonymous postings how do you kn...SW - with so many anonymous postings how do you know who is and who is not viewing this blog and adding content?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-32834271066623809432008-03-04T15:44:00.000-04:002008-03-04T15:44:00.000-04:00Number of comments were deleted due to non-appropr...Number of comments were deleted due to non-appropriate content. Also,those comments directed to the individuals that do not even visit NORVAL MORRISSEAU BLOG were deleted too.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Spirit Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03353827718431536386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-84179860186137166242008-03-04T10:27:00.000-04:002008-03-04T10:27:00.000-04:00thanks Johnglad to hear that you have initiated st...thanks John<BR/>glad to hear that you have initiated steps by documenting Christians work. wish others had done the same for Norval.<BR/>perhaps there would be less of an issue today.<BR/>" the ink guy"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-73345865286368593172008-03-04T10:20:00.001-04:002008-03-04T10:20:00.001-04:00excellent comment jz - finaly someone with somethi...excellent comment jz - finaly someone with something intelligent to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5722577745830268902.post-39853933007938055162008-03-04T10:20:00.000-04:002008-03-04T10:20:00.000-04:00WHy has noone done anything if they know who the f...WHy has noone done anything if they know who the fakers are?<BR/><BR/>Answer: I have never asked teh question directly but can relate bits from what I've heard and experience with a faker myself...<BR/><BR/>I can relate that one of the Morrisseaus knew that another Annishnaabe was creating fake Morrisseaus. So, he painted a replica of this other Annishnaabe's work and signed the Morrisseau name on it and placed in plain view of all on the reserve.<BR/><BR/>This angered the other painter who took offense. The Morrisseau family member, when asked to take it down, said to this "faker" - This is how we feel when you dishonour my father and his art. You should not be doing this if you truly respected Norval.<BR/><BR/>So, I can say that part of this issue is that generally speaking, First Nations aren't very confrontational. They also like to deal with matters intrnally.<BR/><BR/>I can also relate that I had to confront a person who had replicated art by Christian. Yes, Christian has had a faker already himself. I involved the RCMP and the person has been cautioned. I will say that I learned that it is very difficult to litigate and prosecute copyright infringements of art pieces. So there is a legal complexity.<BR/><BR/>I also believe, and this is not confirmed, that some of the fakes were being produced by members of Norval's family. While this upset others in the family - ultimately, nobody wishes to prosecute a family member. And for the record, I am not referring to Christian, Eugene or David in this case.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of people with their fingers in the Norval Morrisseay pie. Some woudl argue that the worst were people who knew him well.<BR/><BR/>All my Relations,<BR/><BR/>JZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com